> So--we have a date? > > Brian Oh, I walked right into that one, didn't I!! I did go thru _all_ the tabs, and customizing and editing, format, input, international sections of the date and time preferences and it still doesn't show up in the bar. I could have it show up in the window but I don't want that, so I'll stick with the extra click to see the date in the drop down box. Though it's easy to look in the upper right corner of my computer, it's not like I can't look at the calendar on the wall in front of me! Thank you for all the suggestions- Linda