Hi, Is it normal for Panther 10.3.3 to logon so slow, it takes about a minute or so from the point that my desktop background is shown, the dock appears and the menu bar (Finder) is open together with the files that are on my desktop. Is this maybe because of the apps that I have on the menu bar (Salling Clicker, iSync and fast-user switching)? In this period of time I cannot do anything becauise of the stupid spinning beach ball. I have iBook 700 MHz with 256 MB of RAM. ... maybe I need to buy an PowerBook .... I would like that :) Thanx! Gorjan Todorovski Oracle DBA MOBIMAK Phone: + 389 70 300 440