On 5/30/04 9:05 AM, "rstief" <rstief at siouxvalley.net> wrote: >> >> >> In this follow up you are now indicating the problem is one of design or >> manufacture - that Apple didn't adequately design the iBook or the >> manufacturer didn't follow through on the design. In this regard we are on >> the same page. >> >> david >> > > It is nice that Apple has recognized the fact that they have a problem with > the Ibook G3 and are attempting to correct it, but how many times do we have > to keep sending it back. I bought the G3 Ibook 800m 14 inch to use it, not be > a test subject to see if it works. The last 2 times I had to send it in, it > took a hour on the phone each time and having to speak to a supervisor to get > them to pickup the computer. Maybe a person should check out Dell, I don't > belong to their list so don't know if they have same problems or not. Why > don't they offer some upgrade that does work at a reasonable price, and by > reasonable I mean not like the offer they did for the Performa 550. > Since I don't work for Apple (just an Apple reseller partime) I can't answer these questions with any authority and given the way people sue at the drop of a hat, Apple isn't going to answer them either other than to announce expanded repair programs when deemed necessary. But I can answer the question based on a combination of experience and speculation. In other words, my answer will be just a step above talking out my @. <grin> Why has your computer been repaired so many times? Probably the same reason so many 15" alBook owners had 2, 3, even 4 LCD replacements last fall. For a while Apple treated returned computers as isolated incidents because a) Apple didn't see any obvious design/manufacturing defects at the time and b) there wasn't enough statistical data to indicate that a non-obvious defect existed. Once it was obvious a problem did exist it took time to figure out just what the problem was and how to fix it. The fact that it took so long for Apple to deal with the problem can be ascribed to a) Apple doesn't care or b) Apple engineers couldn't figure out what the problem was. I know some are quite certain the answer is the former but I have reason to believe the latter. I don't know why you had trouble getting customer service to pick up your computer except I can say that tech support will ask you do jump through certain hoops first. This is frustrating for those of us who know computers but given that lots of folk return computers for things that can be fixed at home it is understandable. As for Dell. Once upon a time Dell had great customer support but in the last 18 months it tanked. Part of the reason was moving it to India. Let me put it this way...one of my employers broke its contract with Dell and is currently suing. Among other things, we have a mobile lab of Dell laptops that has never had all 25 working at one time. david