Thanks for the links, Richard. So now the really tough decision... I could pick up the 800 mhz ibook G4 from the apple refurb site for $850. OR I could get a new 1Ghz ibook direct from apple with all the upgrades I'd want (BT, AE, etc) for $1150. Anyone out there with qualitative experience with both the 800 mhz and the 1 ghz models? Is it worth spending 300 buck for the faster one? I'm inclined to say yes, but $850 is VERY appealing. I know that they're both great machines...damn you apple for making my life so hard!!! lol. Anyway, yeah... -Rob