OS X Login is not that secure. You can reboot from any external volume or CD etc. I don't see any significant differences between the level of security with OS X Login and LockOut. There are of course things you can do with both that will strengthen them somewhat. -- ---------------------------- Greg Martinez gregmartinez at mac.com ---------------------------- On Sep 15, 2004, at 9:14 PM, Justin Herald wrote: > OS X Login security grade? I doubt that very much. It offers nice > looking features, but only takes about 5-10 minutes for a novice user > to work around it if it is configured somewhere around 50% of it's > potential.