Hi Larry, It looks like the information you gave me is my only option as Michael's suggestion of using the option or alt key doesn't allow me to choose which OS to start from. I typed in nidump passwd but I did not see anything like larry:xyreRxk:501:20::0:0:Larry Kollar:/Users/larry:/bin/tcsh, so no number greater then 500 appeared. I can only assume netinfo hadn't launched by the time the prompt appeared. I am running OS 10.0.3, I know this because while in OS9, I saw this, atleast I think it was there but I am sure it is 10.0.3. So, I guess I have no option at the moment. Would turning the iBook into a target disk give me an installation option? I don't have a FW cable and will buy one of course. Thanks Larry, I appreciate your detailed explanation, I wish it had worked. For the record, I will type the result of the nidump passwd command, it may help you understand what is going on. known formats: aliases bootparams ethers exports fstab group hosts networks passwd printcap protocols resolv.conf rps services mountimage localhost# kmod_destroy: com.apple.driver.AppleCore99PE (id 16), deallocating 8 pages starting at 0x49f4000 kmod_destroy: com.apple.iokit.AppleMediaBay (id 27). deallocating 4 pages starting at 0x4c8b000 Alex On Jan 15, 2005, at 4:42 AM, Larry Kollar wrote: > > Alex Santos 100MB Neostrada Mail wrote: > >> I had an idea, if I startup with apple S, can I use a unix command to >> create a new user and login the newly created user from the login >> window? > > Yes. You might also be able to see what accounts are set up on the > computer & change those passwords. > > In single-user mode, type: > > nidump passwd . > > If NetInfo is working, it will list all the accounts configured. There > are a bunch of accounts created by the system for the system, but they > all look like this: > > larry:xyreRxk:501:20::0:0:Larry Kollar:/Users/larry:/bin/tcsh > > (I replaced the encrypted password with my own gibberish for this > example.) > > That first number in the string of four, the UID, is the one you're > interested in. Any account with a UID over 500 is a user account. > Pretend for a moment it's my computer you bought: > > # passwd larry > Changing password for larry. > New password: > > Type anything you want for a new password, then type it again when the > Mac prompts you for it. > > Now that you've fixed it, press Ctrl-D to exit single-user mode, then > log in with the user name and changed password. Presto, you are in > OSX. Chances are, that account is an "admin" account, so you can > create your own account using the normal System Preferences dialogs. > -- > Larry Kollar k o l l a r @ a l l t e l . n e t > "The hardest part of all this is the part that requires thinking." > -- Paul Tyson, on xml-doc > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook >