Actually there is. The following is from Apple's knowledgebase: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106482 Warning: The Open Firmware Password can be reset and changed by any one of the following: By any administrator user, as designated in the Accounts preferences (or in Server Admin). Via physical access to the inside of the computer. When the computer is started up in Mac OS 9. How to troubleshoot a computer with Open Firmware Password enabled If you cannot access the Open Firmware Password application and need to troubleshoot your computer by: Resetting the PRAM Starting up in Single-user mode Starting up in Verbose mode Starting from CD-ROM Then follow these steps: Start up into Open Firmware by pressing and holding the Command- Option-O-F key combination during startup. At the Open Firmware prompt, type: reset-nvram Press Return. When prompted for your password, enter it and press the Return key. It responds OK. At the Open Firmware prompt, type: reset-all Press Return. The computer restarts and you are now be able to reset the PRAM and startup in Single-user mode, Verbose mode, or from CD-ROM. 1. shut down 2. change your ram (either increase it or decrease it.) 3. boot 4. Shutdown 5. Change your ram back to what it was. Boot. --- James Paul Manley Albuquerque, New Mexico Jim Manley's Photoshop Elements Page http://www.geocities.com/jim_p_manley/index.html On Nov 26, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Ron Reames wrote: > On the other hand, if he put his password in firmware, there is > absolutely NO way possible to get around that protection.