Hi Joy, I was going to suspect the CD drive but after reading your husband's report I am more inclined to suspect the logic board. I would have it checked. Also have him run the diagnostic CD that came with the Ibook. Good luck --- James Paul Manley Albuquerque, New Mexico Jim Manley's Photoshop Elements Page http://www.geocities.com/jim_p_manley/index.html On Jun 22, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Joy Freeman wrote: > Well, this hard drive replacement has turned into a nightmare for my > husband, to whom I left the installation of the OS because, first, > I'm too > busy with a big project to spend much time on it right now, and > second, I > love doing the hardware stuff he hates, but have little patience for > software stuff; and this one really has me baffled. I told him to > send me a > description of the problems he's having and I would forward it to > this list. > > Are we missing something obvious? Does it sound like I somehow > installed it > wrong? Any suggestions or referrals to sites that might tell us how to > approach this? Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > > Here's what my husband wrote: > ______________________________________________ > > After the new hard drive was in the iBook, I tried installing from > CD (the > CD drive usually spits CDs out immediately...but if you keep > inserting it, > it will eventually accept the CD and works just fine). The CD was > recognized, and the installer saw the hard drive, but it gave me > the red > exclamation point. I also couldn't use Disk Utility from the CD to > format > it. > > At this point, I accessed the iBook's hard drive in target mode via > FireWire > from another Mac. Here, I was able to run Disk Utility against the > hard > drive and formatted it into one partition, with journaling. I then > installed > 10.3 from that Mac and, to test the installation, chose the iBook's > hard > drive as the startup disk and rebooted the other Mac. This worked > fine. > > At that point, I tried bringing the iBook up on its own. I got the > grey > apple screen, but did not get the little Stonehenge circle of falling > dominoes underneath it. I waited quite some time, but the system > never did > boot up. (I did not get the question mark folder.) > > I tried booting from the CD, and here's where I got a surprise. The > CD was > no longer recognized, even though it was not spit back out. Once > again, I > got the grey apple screen. This strikes me as very odd. > > After this happened, I tried a re-install via FireWire, on the > theory that I > might not've taken the iBook down correctly, didn't unmount it or > something > like that, after the first install. This install also went well, so > far as I > could tell, but again, I could not bring the iBook up past the grey > apple > screen. > > Since then, I've tried a variety of tactics, from booting up on an > external > FireWire drive (a Plextor PX-708UF, which works fine with iBooks) > down to > trying to bring it up in safe mode. > > So far, nothing has worked. I can still boot the other Mac using > the iBook's > hard drive via FireWire, but that's all. > ______________________________________________ > > Any help at all would be appreciated, > Thanks, > Joy > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > Joy Freeman > ~ from manuscript to bound book ~ > Editorial, Design, and Production Services > joy at pagesbyjoy.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984