Did all of that.. the ibook starts up showing 2 things on the screen: an circular arrow in a box/folder and a arrow pointing to the right so i click circular arrow and wait..and wait. 1.. hold down option key and press circular arrow nothing b.. hold down apple key and press circular arrow nothing c.. hold down apple key and ctrl and press circular arrow nothing Now i notice that when i boot the ibook..no longer do i have the "spinning world" goes straight to flashing ? in folder. i found this page and am wondering about doing that to the ibbok. http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/partitioning_tiger.html just the formatting not the partitioning. wondering if that formatting would help get away from the flashing ? etc.... just random thoughts. Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary H." <maryh at brucetelecom.com> To: "A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers." <ibook at listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive At 5:18 PM -0400 7/30/07, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: So, now we need to find a way to get your iBook to gain access to the OS X install disk contained in the MacBook. Try this: Start by powering off both Macs. Disconnect FireWire cable from both machines, for now. (I assume the OS X install disk is still in the MacBook's optical drive) Start up the MacBook (using the power button). At the sound of the start-up chime, hold down T key on MacBook until you see the FireWire symbol moving around. Connect FireWire cable to both machines. Start up the iBook with the Option key held down. Keep the Option key down until you see something on the iBook screen. What, if anything, do you see? (I'm hoping you will be given the option to start up from the OS X disk.) M