On May 3, 2005, at 5:57 PM, Richard Nagle wrote: > its not.. may flaws in the compression schema. > in fact with my NEW Sennheiser HD650 headphones, > hearing the difference is like NIGHT and DAY. Placebo effect. I've got Sennheiser HD 580s (as well as Ultimate Ears UE-10s) and there's no comparing. In fact, for most music, even AAC at 160 sounds nearly as good as the original. Kirk Author of: The Mac OS X Command Line: Unix Under the Hood - - - - - - Read my blog: Kirkville -- http://www.mcelhearn.com Musings, Opinion and Miscellanea, on Macs, iPods and more Kirk McElhearn | Chemin de la Lauze | 05600 Guillestre | France