I see mention of fps's in many benchmark reports using apps like Quake3 and others. How do you get this info? The only app I've found that I can get fps's for is Serenescene's Marine Aquarium. So that's the app I've been using to compare the graphics performance of different graphics cards. I'd also like to know how well my Quake3 performs on these different cards. Where do I look for this data? thx... -- J.C. Webber III Technical Lead, Unix System Administrator jcw at kingoblio.com (home) www.kingoblio.com