I've used http://www.nikotel.com/software.htm for audioconferencing between Mac (450Mhz Cube 10.2.8 and iMic) and PC (Dell PIII-800Mhz.) with a headset and using DSL 512-512 it have worked good enough for having a good and clear conversation. With around 2-3 seconds of delay between each other, maybe a faster Mac and Pc can have better results. This Free Software is Java based and works great with the latest Java update from Apple ( http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/java/ ). Also on the Pc is important to install the latest Java version ( http://www.java.com/en/index.jsp ). Users need to register for using it, but it remains free for computer to computer calls unless users deside to buy the option for calling VoiP (Voice over Internet) phones. Also uses a AOL messaging inside the application for text chat. For Mac to Mac the best thing is iChat. I haven't tried AIM(Pc)-iChat(Mac) with the newest iChat Apple Beta yet. Gabriel On 2/8/04 9:06 PM, "Alan Thompson" <athomp2 at mac.com> wrote: > iChatAV - mac to mac. i really have never, ever seen anything as easy, > or high quality. > > > On Feb 8, 2004, at 4:46 PM, Keith Rowland wrote: > >> What part of ivisit do you compare as crap? > > > ---------- > Check out the Cube email list FAQ > http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/Cube.html > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <Cube-off at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > <Cube-digest at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Need help from a real person? Try. <Cube-request at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > > ---------- > $14.99 Unlimited Nationwide Mac Dialup and Mac Web Hosting from your Mac ISP > Serious Mac Internet Solutions From NineWire! http://macinternetaccess.com > > T3Hub | 3 Port USB Hub weighs less than an ounce! > Dr. Bott| <http://www.drbott.com/prod/T3Hub.html> > > Cyberian | Support this list when you buy at Outpost.com! > Outpost | http://www.themacintoshguy.com/outpost.shtml > > ADC Extension | Extend the built in cable of your flat panel by 10 ft. > Dr. Bott | <http://www.drbott.com/prod/ADCExtension.html>