[CUBE] How do I set up Local Network password?

[J.C. Webber III]

Are you suggesting I don't know what I'm talking about or that the
recipient of my advice is to stupid to own a computer?  Either way,
you're wrong.

-- jcw
atoa at krak.net wrote:
> This thread has reached the "pack up your computer and take it back to the
> store, 'cause you are too dumb to own one" stage. This ain't rocket
> science, folks.
> 
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, J.C. Webber III wrote:
> 
> > Snow White wrote:
> > > On Saturday, March 20, 2004, at 11:40 AM, J.C. Webber III wrote:
> > > > filling in your full name in the Name:  box.  If this does not EXACTLY
> > > > match the full name on the destination machine it will not work.  I
> > > > found that I had an extra space between my first and last names on one
> > > > of my machines and every attempt to login always failed on the first
> > > > attempt until I replaced the full name with my 'short' name.
> >
> > > I will try playing with the name to see if that is the problem.  So, if
> > > I understand this my password is my admin login password (for the whole
> > > machine).
> >
> > There is no distinction between your normal password and your 'admin
> > login password'.  You are either classified as an administrator,
> > allowed to do administrative tasks with your normal login (but
> > required to re-certify your identity by providing *your* password when
> > requesting the system to perform an administrative task), or you're
> > not.  There is no seperate admin password.  And you have the option to
> > grant admin privileges to any additional accounts you create on your
> > machine (for your boy friend, mother, roommate, whatever) or not.
> >
> > There is a real admin account (referred to as the root account), but it
> > is typically disabled by default by Apple.  It can be enabled if
> > desired, but rarely if ever required.  And definitely not required to
> > perform such tasks as remotely accessing Shares.
> >
> > As an experiment I just tried remotely mounting my Cube's filesystems
> > onto my Powerbook using my housekeeper's non-administrative-enabled
> > account (I happen to know her password since she hasn't changed it
> > from the one I gave her initially when I created her account).  She
> > only has an account on the Cube, not on the powerbook.  'She' was only
> > offered the opportunity to mount her own files or my dropbox (a place
> > to put files you want to share).  No opportunity to mount the complete
> > system disk was offered to 'her'.  You should be able to deduce from
> > this description that I'm 'pretending' to be her.  As far as the Cube
> > is concerned, since I know her password, I am her.  As far as the PB
> > is concerned *I'm* asking for this remote filesystem to be mounted.
> > As far as the Cube is concerned *she* is doing the asking.
> >
> > Confusing, isn't it.  I'm doing my best to try and clarify things
> > here, but I fear I may be mudding up the waters.
> >
> >
> > > If I am at the computer named GIMLEY with login password of DWARF
> > > and my server upstairs is CURIOUS GEORGE with login password of BIG
> > > YELLOW HAT
> >
> > Why would you use two different password for yourself to access your
> > own machines?
> >
> > > I can get access to Curious George from Gimley with the password DWARF
> > > - is that correct?  Or do I need to use the pass BIG YELLOW HAT?
> >
> > In your case, no, you'd have to use BIG YELLOW HAT.  But more important
> > than that, what are you using as the login name (in the Name: box)?
> > Are your login names the same on both boxes?  If so (and that's logical)
> > why wouldn't you use the same password?  The machine doesn't have a
> > password, your account does.
> >
> > > Is there a place on the server computer that allows me to specify a new
> > > password for networking
> > > ie. Computer - Gimley - pasword - SHORTY to access this computer via
> > > network. (instead of DWARF)
> >
> > The password is tied directly to the account on the the local box.  In
> > your senerio, there is no 'networking' password (I'm qualifying that
> > comment because in senerios where all machines rely on a centrally
> > managed Netinfo server, there is such a concept as a 'network'
> > password, but it's still tied to the user's account, not the machine).
> >
> > There's something askew in your view of things here and I can't quite
> > put my finger on it.
> >
> > > >
> > > > Point being, you want to fill in that Name: field with the login
> > > > name of the account on the remote machine.  Either the full name
> > > > or the 'short' name.  Then enter the password you use on that remote
> > > > machine to login as if you where sitting down in front of it.
> > > >
> > > > Next you will see a dialog box offering you the opportunity to mount
> > > > up on your local machine one of the available filesystems on the
> > > > remote machine.  This can be an iPod, an iDisk, your home directory,
> > > > or even the remote machine's entire hard disk (you probably will be
> > > > required to have an administrator's account on the remote machine to
> > > > mount up the whole disk (I would think, but I'm not sure because I
> > > > *am* the administrator on all my machines).
> >
> > > In OS 9 you could specify what disks or folders would be shared with
> > > whom via the GET INFO on each file/folder/disk.  Is there any such
> > > control in OS X or is it only Guest access or ALL access via proper
> > > pass login?
> >
> > It's close to that, but not exactly.  Accounts that have been granted
> > administrative privileges get access to what you refer to as ALL, but
> > regular accounts only get access to their own home directory and the
> > Dropboxs of all other accounts.  Guests only get access to the Dropboxes.
> >
> > But, this access to ALL for administrative enabled accounts is not
> > entirely unrestricted.  I can mount up my remote machine's entire hard
> > disk and cd (change directory) over to another user's homedir, but,
> > assuming standard, normal permission settings on the folders in those
> > homedirs, I can only see the files in their Public/Dropbox and Sites
> > folders.  Even though my account is a privileged Administrator's
> > account.  What I can see that regular accounts can not is the
> > Application folder, System folder, Library folder, etc, of the
> > remotely mounted system.
> >
> > > >
> > > > If, on the other hand, you select 'Guest' then you will only be able
> > > > to see the Public Folders.
> > > >
> > > > Does that help?
> >
> > > Maybe but a little time will tell.  Thanks alot
> >
> > Welcome...
> > --
> > J.C. Webber III
> > Technical Lead, Unix System Administrator
> > jcw at kingoblio.com       www.kingoblio.com
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-- 
J.C. Webber III
Technical Lead, Unix System Administrator
jcw at kingoblio.com       www.kingoblio.com
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