[G4] Jaguar - many apps fail to start - unexpected quit - resolution?
Steve O'Neill
steveo at omsoft.com
Mon Apr 21 23:07:34 PDT 2003
I finally got it back working. And I've been to hell and back, too -
flashing question mark, no drive, and I learned a lot about recovering
from that situation, at least in my case. Thanks Brian, and thanks, CJ,
for your suggestions. I hope I can save someone else this grief.
This problem was originally an unexpected quit in almost every app I
had, both Apple and 3rd-party, due to a protection fault in some
subroutine in the X kernal that's used by all the affected apps.
First of all, I tried starting OS9.2.2, just to see if it still worked.
I'm convinced now that this whole ordeal started when I started
Classic for the first time after installing Jaguar. And I sure hope
it's over.
When you start Classic in Jaguar for the first time, you get a box that
says basically, "I'm going to update some OS9 files for classic, neither
classic nor OS9 booting will be affected."
WRONG. Reboot in OS 9.2.2, and this is what happens: the new Open
Transport extension it installs doesn't work (actually Open Transport
ASLM Modules), and a box appears that says there's an extension conflict
and you need to restart with extensions off. Only one extension has
loaded, but there's a conflict. Oh, yes, you're gonna lose QuickTime.
Anyway, after fighting with Extensions Manager for about an hour, things
were sometimes erratic, then the Microsoft Mouse driver crashed (what
else?).
Power off, power up, no happy mac. No sad mac. A blinking question
mark in a folder. That means there's no boot device found. The OS9
install CD offered to initialize the disk it couldn't read. No thanks,
I want my data.
Panic first, then get out Disk Warrior after Disk First Aid fails to fix
it. Disk warrior found a bunch of garbage, but claimed it could fix it.
I saw my desktop when it was done, so now I knew I had a chance, but
still no boot.
But on the Disk Warrior CD, there's about one app that you can use:
Startup Disk, just like the regular control panel. I chose 10.1.5 and
restarted, and it worked. Apparently the data that specified the start
disk had been lost, and this was the only way I could set it without an
otherwise bootable system. No, Startup Manager and
hold-down-the-X-key-at-boot did NOT work.
So I now have NO IDEA what happened to the original problem, except Disk
Warrior may have fixed some file corruption created in the Classic
extension snafu. And now I have to reinstall OS9.
But I found two VERY important things here, that are NOT in the Apple
Knowledge Base:
1. Never run Classic from 10.1.5. It'll hose OS9. If you want OS9,
boot that.
2. If you get the blinking ? folder at boot, try to set the startup
system (using a CD or other drive since your HD doesn't work), it just
may be confused, and it's a lot easier than initializing the disk and
recovering from a backup, which is what I almost did (16 DVDs).
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