2x check for firmware upgrades that particular set of machines did have them and I think there was one that did in fact affect FW. I would also 2x apple system profiler to see if they show up there. If they do it might be a conflicting driver issue or something similar. (i didnt read the whole message, but those are the first things I would check.) On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Diannah Morgan wrote: > Hmmmm. interesting point. > I never thought that using the same card might cause a problem. > I do all that from the same port on my dual gig, through a powered hub. > Camera, deck and drives. > > <-----Original Message----- > <From: Power Macintosh G4 List [mailto:G4 at lists.themacintoshguy.com]On > <Behalf Of Brian Conner > <Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 8:52 AM > <To: Power Macintosh G4 List > <Subject: Re: [G4] Dead FW ports > < > < > <AFAIK, the FW bus is integrated on the logic board. Two ports, > <one bus. If > <it's blown, I think the only option is a new logic board. > < > <Someone suggested a PCI FW card. Should work fine, as long as > <you're not > <capturing to or from a FW drive on the same card as your deck. > <Even then, > <most of the time, it will handle the bandwidth, depending on > <your G4. You > <probably have a second drive for media files in those G4s, right? > < > <YMMV. > < > < > <Brian Conner > < > < > <-----Original Message----- > <From: Power Macintosh G4 List [mailto:G4 at lists.themacintoshguy.com] On > <Behalf Of Diannah Morgan > <Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:26 AM > <To: Power Macintosh G4 List > <Subject: [G4] Dead FW ports > < > < > <Hi, > < > <I've got some old G4-400's in a classroom and I believe I have > <dead FW ports > <in some of the machines. Apple profiler can't find the > <devices.(Usually it > <says > <"built-in") > < > <I'm pretty handy inside a machine. Is there a website that explains > <swapping them out for new components? And where's a good place to get > <newones? (is it as simple as swapping out a modem for a stealth serial > <port?) > < > <Or am I stuck getting new mother boards. > < > < > <---------- > <G4ist, a listserv for discussion of everything G4. > <FAQ at <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/G4.html>. > <Send a message to <G4-DIGEST at themacintoshguy.com> to switch to > <the digest. > < > <XRouter | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! > <Dr. Bott | Now $139.99 <http://www.drbott.com/prod/xrouter.html> > < > <Dr. Bott LLC 4-port USB Hub in translucent Graphite! > <Dr. Bott LLC <http://www.drbott.com/prod/ghub.html> > < > <Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Canon > <Digital Cameras | > <--Quicksilver & refurbished G4's arriving daily! | and > <Camcorders!! | > < > <MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 > <Only $879! > <Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! <http://www.macresq.com> > < > <OS X News, Dr.Mac, Forums, Tutorials, Tips, Hints, FAQ?s - > http://www.osxfaq.com > > > ---------- > G4ist, a listserv for discussion of everything G4. > FAQ at <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/G4.html>. > Send a message to <G4-DIGEST at themacintoshguy.com> to switch to the digest. > > XRouter | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! > Dr. Bott | Now $139.99 <http://www.drbott.com/prod/xrouter.html> > > Dr. Bott LLC 4-port USB Hub in translucent Graphite! > Dr. Bott LLC <http://www.drbott.com/prod/ghub.html> > > Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Canon Digital Cameras | > --Quicksilver & refurbished G4's arriving daily! | and Camcorders!! | > > MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! > Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! <http://www.macresq.com> > > OS X News, Dr.Mac, Forums, Tutorials, Tips, Hints, FAQ?s - http://www.osxfaq.com >