You're right Mark. It will be more like THREE to FIVE times the performance. If you don't think so, you are blind to the facts as laid out by Mr. Jobs on June 23rd. Have you seen his presentation yet? Believe me, it will be worth the extra money well spent. And I also have a dual 867 that I think is pretty fast too. But it is certainly NOT "plenty" fast. But that's why we need more facts about Paula's friend and what she wants a new Mac for. These new dual 1.25 G4 macs for $1599 are a real bargain right now for a lot of work. kunga10 (AIM) "iChat AV, The Killer App" <http://www.osx-zone.com> "We're Looking At A Long Period of Labor 'til January" <http://www.apple-zone.com> "Verax MDD-FW800 Silence Kit Kills Almost All The Noise" <http://www.apple-zone.com> "iPod Software 2.0.1 Update Released" <http://www.ipod-zone.com> On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 11:22 PM, M Hood wrote: > Yeah, but damn! That is TWICE the price!! I doubt it'll be twice the > performance. > > mark. (who thinks his dual 867MDD is *plenty* fast!)