[G4] Does Apple Lie about the G5?

Mel mkrewall at mac.com
Wed Jun 25 19:39:06 PDT 2003


It's called marketing. Of course you are going to try to portray your 
machine in the best light. Nvidia and ATI (graphics), Microsoft, 
Oracle, Sybase, and IBM (datbases)  and many others have engaged in 
specsmanship with benchmarks for marketing purposes. In Apple's case 
they did use roughly equivalent compilers. Was the compiler used for 
the Windows test the most optimized? No, but neither was it heavily 
optimized for the Mac. The gcc compiler is a widely used and accepted 
compiler and has had much more work done on the x86 version than the 
PPC version. An Apple employee (can't remember his name offhand) 
answered some of the issues on Slashdot today. It's not a lie, because 
the the results can be reproduced. It doesn't make all the 
optimizations on either platform that are possible, so some people are 
up in arms. There is never really a high road with benchmarks, because 
someone will always question your methodology and computers and 
software are so complex, especially cross-platform. There is a low road 
in which things are manipulated for the purposes of a benchmark (see 
Nvidia graphics recently). Caveat emptor no matter who is quoting 
benchmarks.
Mel

On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 06:03  PM, Vernon LeMoignan wrote:

> let me clarify,
>
> I don't think Apple did any of the things the PC lemmings are
> saying they did. But if they had I find it really ironic that the
> same people who fudge things day in and day out are the ones
> screaming in rightous indignation that Apple is Fudging things.
>
> If Apple is Actually lying, which would be hard to prove considering
> the test results were not Apple's, I would be very disappointed in 
> them,
>
>
> Vern.
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 04:52  PM, M Hood wrote:
>
>> In most of your points, you seem to think it's ok to do something just
>> because others do it, even though it's wrong. It is not. Apple should 
>> take
>> the high road and do the right thing, not just what others do.
>>
>> mark
>>
>
>
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