[G4] Does Apple Lie about the G5?
Mel
mkrewall at mac.com
Wed Jun 25 19:39:06 PDT 2003
It's called marketing. Of course you are going to try to portray your
machine in the best light. Nvidia and ATI (graphics), Microsoft,
Oracle, Sybase, and IBM (datbases) and many others have engaged in
specsmanship with benchmarks for marketing purposes. In Apple's case
they did use roughly equivalent compilers. Was the compiler used for
the Windows test the most optimized? No, but neither was it heavily
optimized for the Mac. The gcc compiler is a widely used and accepted
compiler and has had much more work done on the x86 version than the
PPC version. An Apple employee (can't remember his name offhand)
answered some of the issues on Slashdot today. It's not a lie, because
the the results can be reproduced. It doesn't make all the
optimizations on either platform that are possible, so some people are
up in arms. There is never really a high road with benchmarks, because
someone will always question your methodology and computers and
software are so complex, especially cross-platform. There is a low road
in which things are manipulated for the purposes of a benchmark (see
Nvidia graphics recently). Caveat emptor no matter who is quoting
benchmarks.
Mel
On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 06:03 PM, Vernon LeMoignan wrote:
> let me clarify,
>
> I don't think Apple did any of the things the PC lemmings are
> saying they did. But if they had I find it really ironic that the
> same people who fudge things day in and day out are the ones
> screaming in rightous indignation that Apple is Fudging things.
>
> If Apple is Actually lying, which would be hard to prove considering
> the test results were not Apple's, I would be very disappointed in
> them,
>
>
> Vern.
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 04:52 PM, M Hood wrote:
>
>> In most of your points, you seem to think it's ok to do something just
>> because others do it, even though it's wrong. It is not. Apple should
>> take
>> the high road and do the right thing, not just what others do.
>>
>> mark
>>
>
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