[G4] tv on a G4

rich northouse rnorthouse at wi.rr.com
Sat Feb 7 13:39:46 PST 2004


Hi Guys,

Maybe I am missing something, but what is wrong with an $80 13" TV set 
w/video jacks? Go up to a hundred and you can get TV and built-in VCR!!


rich


On Feb 7, 2004, at 11:54 AM, Daniel Brieck wrote:

> Every TV recorded is going to have the problem of not being able to 
> record and watch TV at the same time, unless the product has more than 
> one TV tuner. Here is another suggestion and option if any of you have 
> a somewhat powerful  PC box laying around, you can put it to work for 
> recording TV and then watch the recorded programs on your mac using 
> quicktime. All you need is a pc with a  Pentium III 600 MHz and 
> Windows XP for best results (which is still not great) but don't try 
> to make a TV recorder with Windows 98 it will not run more than a few 
> days. Once you have the PC all you need then is a PCI / AGP tuner 
> card. I would recommend an ATI all in wonder 128 card, because their 
> cheap ($40.00 - 50.00)  and work reasonably well.
>
> This is a good solution because it gets the work of recording TV off 
> your mac and on to another piece of hard ware, which is how it should 
> be. The work of recording and encoding TV takes a good deal of power 
> and should not be happening  with your Mac's  precious CPU cycles, 
> which in most cases we need every-bit of  to get stuff done. A more 
> ideal situation would be an independent set top Tv box that records TV 
> and stores TV shows locally; however, unlike a Tivo this would  allow 
> you to also use your computer to configure the box and watch / 
> transfer recorded shows to networked computers.
>
> So an independent PC box is almost ideal for recording TV. Also if you 
> don't want to use Windows OS to do the recording a Linux OS can be 
> made to do the job. However, I have no idea how hard it would be to 
> get such a product running with any measure of success. I would even 
> like to do this to my own current set-up to drop the Windows OS, 
> because of its annoying quarks. (Ex's 1. Must enable / disable windows 
> folder file sharing on a daily basis in order to successfully share 
> /watch the programs recorded on a networked computer (mac or pc) 2. TV 
> recording Stops with the ATI software after the Win Xp os has been 
> running more than 18 Days, so must restart before then) As of yet 
> though I have not had the time to try to get TV recording to happen on 
> a Linux OS. It will probably not be easy , because getting stuff to 
> work on linux can be a challenge.
>
> This is yet another way to watch recorded TV on your mac. Here is all 
> you need
> 1 PC with a  Pentium® III or similar processor (~ 500MHz or better) 
> (128 MB of ram or better) (10 GB  or better Hard drive) with a open 
> PCI slot or upgradeable AGP slot.
>
> 2. A TV tuner card that supports TV recording  and Scheduling( Eg ATI 
> All in wonder 128 or better)
>
> 3. High Speed Network connection to your mac and other computers
>
> Dan Brieck Jr.
>
> On Feb 7, 2004, at 11:29 AM, Renita Williams wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jim,
>>
>> You are the first person to mention not being able to tape and view 
>> at the same time.  I wonder if this is a drawback of Formac TVR also. 
>>  I am now considering either the fire wire version of EyeTV or 
>> Formac.
>>
>> Renita
>>
>> On Saturday, February 7, 2004, at 11:21  AM, Jim Burger wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I use Eye TV on a Sawtooth
>>
>>>  I've found no way to 'tape' and view at the same time though.
>>
>>> I can highly recommend it. Although I saw they have a new product 
>>> out that works with fire wire(don't know if it also works with USB) 
>>> that you might also check out.
>>>
>>> Jim Burger
>>
>
>
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