On 26 Aug, 2005, at 22:41, Ron Michael wrote: ---I’m trying to move the Hitatchi 80Gig which was the original main drive on my G4 1.25mhz mirror door. Trying to move it to the bottom carrier below the optical drives. That is where my main startup drive is located which is now a Maxtor 120. The other carrier contains a Seagate 160 and another Maxtor 160. That Hitatchi drive has the most confusing jumper setting diagram I’ve ever seen.--- By my count, you are attempting to install four (4) drives in your chassis. I tried to do the same a few months ago and found that the fourth drive would not show up during boot-up most of the time, only showing up when I did an immediate restart from the menu. This problem was appearing even though I had installed a Sonnet ATA-100 IDE controller card in the first PCI slot of my Gbit Ethernet G4. It didn't matter which ribbon I connected the fourth drive to, it wouldn't show at boot-up. When I removed the fourth drive and put it into a FireWire case, every drive showed up at boot-up. This may be a problem of not enough power out of the power supply, but I don't have enough knowledge of electrical operations to make a definite statement to that effect. As to you trying to use "Cable Select" setting for the jumpers, I have only had sporadic success in making drives identified as "CS" recognize and show up on the desktop. Some machines will see them and other machines refuse to see them and I don't have enough information/knowledge to explain why that happens. I simply stopped attempting to use "CS" as the jumper setting and always use Master and Slave settings. I have a 30G Deskstar drive with a confusing array of diagrams also, but careful reading of the settings should set you straight. Carefully compare the diagrams for Master/Slave settings and select the one that most closely describes your configuration; ie: "Normal Use": YNNY = Master, or NNYY = Slave. Do not use any setting for "2GB CLIP" or "7.9GB ONLY" or "Auto Spin Disable". Those settings are strictly for WhineDoze machines. Also, try putting the Master drive at the far end of the ribbon and the Slave drive on the middle connector. Physical location can cause problems in identification.