No james you are exactly right the G4 MDD supports auto sensing ports I researched this before hand to say what I did originally to make things less confusing... So no gotchas there John... http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42717 Daniel J. Brieck Jr. On Jul 17, 2005, at 5:52 PM, James Pacyga wrote: > Don't quote me, but I don't think you need the cross over cable, > you can plug directly into the boxes with a stardard cable - they > autosense tx anr rx on the cable and adapt. I did this when I > loaded up my parents iMac from my iBook. Unfortunately I found out > after I paid $20 for a cross-over! Oops. > > > On Jul 17, 2005, at 2:35 PM, Johns Maillist wrote: > > >> >> On Jul 17, 2005, at 5:16 PM, Daniel Brieck Jr. wrote: >> >> >>> So all you really need is a ethernet cable, you can get one for >>> less than $5.00. It may be a little slower than the firewire >>> method, but it will get done what you want done and you will not >>> have to add any PCI firewire cards to your G3(which are not >>> exactly cheap) for a one time file transfer. In general all you >>> need to do is plug in the ethernet cable (looks like a wide >>> telephone cord jack) into the G3 and the other end into the G4. >>> Turn on file sharing and you are all set to transfer files. >>> >> >> BUT...... >> Either plug them both into a hub, or use a cross-over cable! >> J