Do you have Virex7.5 installed by any chance? I had a similar issue occur on 10.3.9 once. Every-time I logged in a Safari window opened with a help file... I went into Virex and unchecked the preference "Automatically check for virus definition updates" that fixed it... Dan Brieck Jr. On May 2, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Phillip Meza wrote: > Hello, I'm new to the "list" thank you and I seem to have a problem > that I will try to describe ... > I "upgraded" from 10.3.9 using the 10.4 DVD and my first attempt > failed ... I know about the > "upgrade" path ... I choose to do this because of the task of > reinstalling all of my software was > just to much! anyway, I did some research before attempting again and > it paid off the mac > re-booted to the designated drive, I launched all of my applications > one by one and so far > all is fine ... except for this problem ... When I "restart" from the > apple menu or from a log out > the machine will not restart, the cursor is "active" but all desktop, > icons, dock, menu bar > disappear and the machine does nothing? So I "force" a boot from the > front panel (big button) > and it re-boots but with a "glitch" Safari opens at a "file" help page > (epson japan). I've tried > repairing permissions (disk utility & cocktail) no good ... Zapping > PRAM? help, please! Phillip > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4 at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >