[G4] Speeding up (how to reply)

transform baggins at ihug.co.nz
Wed Oct 12 03:58:58 PDT 2005


from a technical person who uses email to deal with pin head engineers 
ect every day......
you are both ( tim,tony) correct to a point.
i will not use the correction method  as it takes lots  more time so i 
will use reply method.
reply method.....
you type at the top and leave the last message or in a group situation 
like this you use the original post if possible as you are answering 
the subject question.
build/construct method........
you type at the end and remove/mark bad data that you feel is wrong 
this keeps a running sheet and some engineers follow this so anally 
that it hurts.
correction/itemizing method ......
this relies on different colours /fonts to interweave the questions and 
answers usually in a list of questions or to correct a statement.
i think if you ask a question you will check your email so what dose it 
matter how you reply.
if you are like me and can help but don't have time all the time you 
end up skimming and you miss bits but hay theirs  lots of people who 
can help so why worry how you reply......
so boys build a bridge and get over it......



hope this waste some more time......


On 12/10/2005, at 10:23 PM, Tim Collier wrote:

> Personally, when I see an email with all of the original stuff at the 
> top, unless it is something that REALLY interests me, I just skip on 
> to the next one.  The way I have Apple mail set up is the mail 
> accounts on the left the messages at the top and a preview at the 
> bottom.  If I don't see anything interesting in the bottom pane, like 
> an actual reply....on to the next one I go.  I guess I probably miss a 
> lot of 'really interesting stuff' but having to scroll down just 
> annoys me.  The particular message from the person asking regarding 
> broadband, since he/she was responding to my reply and had posted at 
> the bottom, I thought I was obligated to read the reply at the 
> bottom....that was the ONLY reason I would EVER even to bother to 
> scroll down.  Lazy of me, no doubt, but I get quite a few emails per 
> day and if I took the time to sit here and scroll down to read all the 
> posted nested garbage, I think that's all I'd be doing all day.  So, 
> call me a top posting kind of guy.  I'm not a Bad Person and tonight 
> I'll ask God to forgive me my sins regarding this also.
> To all of you who will be fasting at sundown tonight, may it go well 
> and have a wonderful Yom Kippur experience.
>
> Tim Collier (Ish Emunah ben Avraham)
> On Oct 12, 2005, at 4:11 AM, Tony Johansen wrote:
>
>> On 12/10/2005 10:28 AM, "Tim Collier" <collierof1957 at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I hate when people post at the bottom of the message, it means I
>>> actually have to scroll down to read it
>>>
>>
>> Tim I was at the centre of a long running debate earlier in the year 
>> over
>> this issue. I was a top poster, and I was amazed at the passionate 
>> and often
>> angry arguments from both sides. What it boiled down to in the end 
>> was that
>> there is a tradition handed down from ancient times (read anything 
>> more than
>> 5 years ago) that tech mails are bottom posted. There is logic there 
>> in that
>> when answering a message with several contributions the story flows
>> naturally down the page and it is easier therefore for busy 
>> respondents to
>> skim the problem and contribute.
>>
>> There is a better reason for bottom posting however, and that is when 
>> people
>> give their time freely and often answer dozens of questions daily 
>> across
>> several lists, they are justified in simply skipping poorly formatted 
>> or
>> impolite messages. The etiquette of tech messages (by long standing
>> convention) is to bottom post, to strip out html, and generally 
>> delete the
>> irrelevant.
>>
>> I am not criticising your wonderfully full and generous response in 
>> this
>> thread, just thought you might appreciate knowing why the bottom 
>> posting
>> occurs. It's a small enough matter to follow the convention if it 
>> makes it
>> easier for someone, so I do myself these days.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Tony.
>> http://www.tonyjohansen.com
>> A Life In Art
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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