[G4] AGP hard drive question

[David DelMonte]

You can do several things. You still can add an IDE drive and connect  
to the cable that connects to the mother board. Those cables - plus  
the 4 prong power cable can support at least two or three extra ide  
drives.

You can replace the scsi drive, but I personally dont like that idea  
- others will disagree.

You can go with firewire - that's what I do now. More portability for  
when I travel.

If you're not too comfortable installing an internal drive, I'd take  
out the scsi stuff and move to firewire. I think you'll be fine in  
Photoshop (have you looked at Aperture or LightRoom (Apple and Adobe  
respectively))??

David



On Feb 6, 2006, at 4:33 PM, JayB wrote:

> OUCH!  -- just kidding.
>
> OK, it's connected to a PCI card " SCSI  LVD/SE"  -- It has an  
> external connection that is what I thought might be an Ultra SCSI  
> port.  Guess it is after all, huh?
>
> So, if I understand the situation- I'm stuck with either finding a  
> similar SCSI drive to replace the dead one, or ..... what?  Getting  
> another PCI card for SATA?
>
> This caked drive is mostly used as a scratch drive (I'm a prof.  
> photog and use Photoshop every day) and for a couple of aps.  I   
> had used it also as my OS-X start-up drive.  I still use a fair  
> number of OS9 aps and all the data and other aps are on the other  
> Ultra SCSI drive.  I really don't want to replace both drives.   
> That would pretty much convince me to bail on this machine altogether.
>
> Perhaps I should blow off having 2 internal drives and just use an  
> external FW drive for DATA and Scratch?  Wouldn't this drop  
> performance for PS?
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2006, at 3:08 PM, David DelMonte wrote:
>
>> Jay, open up the box and see where the drive cables are connected.  
>> If they connect directly to the mother board, they are ATA/IDE. If  
>> they connect to a PCI card, take out the card and see what's  
>> printed on it - if it's SCSI or IDE, it should say so. (Dont  
>> forget to pull the power plug before this manoever).
>>
>> Let us know the outcome.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2006, at 3:56 PM, JayB wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2006, at 2:31 PM, James Asherman wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I've upgraded my g4/500 to 1ghtz via Sonnet.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the factory 18gb Ultra II SCSI drives has cacked.
>>>>>
>>>>> Questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> What are my drive options?  Can I replace it with a regular ATA  
>>>>> drive (plug & play)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not at all. SCSI and ATA are two different animals.
>>>> You could maybe get a SATA PCI card and start from there w/ ATA  
>>>> drives.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Or is there going to be a problem with this ultra SCSI cable  
>>>>> inside?
>>>>
>>>> Possibly the cable has become unseated while you were installing  
>>>> your CPU.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The drive cacked while I was wiping it clean w/ disk utilities  
>>> (writing zeros and ones).  Drive crashed 15% after it was being  
>>> erased.  Couldn't get it to mount using Disk Utilities or another  
>>> utlitly program.
>>>
>>> I had installed the CPU over a year ago.
>>>
>>> The part that is confusing is, a nearby authorized shop who had  
>>> done warranty work for me on this unit in the past said just  
>>> replace it w/ any ATA drive.  But I was guessing that the two  
>>> (Apple factory installed) Ultra SCSI drives DO NOT use the same  
>>> cables or drivers as IDE or ATA.  This has left me a bit confused.
>>>
>>> This G4 is only going to be used for another year I suspect and I  
>>> don't need more than 40gigs on the 2nd drive (the one that  
>>> cacked).  I'm jsut looking for the easiest and cheapest route  
>>> (esp. since it's worth no more than $400 now).
>>>
>>> Another helpful soul had also advised that I probably had IDE  
>>> bus, but I just don't know enough to be able to confirm either way.
>>>
>>> Clarity Please?  (and thanks for helping!)
>>>
>>> ~Jay
>>>
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