Goodness gracious, I thought I was the only one that bought his own computer at work. When running Subcontracts for ElectroCom Automation back in 1986. The company furnished me with a Kay Pro running CPM. We built the machines that sort the mail. Using Word Star I was writing long involved subcontracts pulling and using the pseudo Government phrases from the USPS Contracts to put into the pass throu's to the subcontractors. Some of the Pass Throu's were 54 pages long ... to be attached to the subcontract. Delivery schedules of up to 4-1/2 years written with DATA BASE II (shudder). I strolled on down to the software development department (the smartest guys in the company) and told the head man that I was going to buy my own computer. That I didn't even like computers. I didn't want to mess with the jargon of data fields and all that bull. Didn't want to boot it up, wanted one I turned on, did my work and turned it off. Didn't want a bunch of long stream commands and all of the related crap. Dr. Roejack turned to his assistant and said, "He just described a Mac." Turns out, the software to run those high speed documents sorters were first coded on Macs. I went out and spent $2,000.00 and bought me a Mac Plus, an ImageWriter II, a desktop printer stand and MacWrite or some other Word Processor. The guys in SW Development gave me copies of about $1500 retail. worth of software and I was on my way. Three the MacWrite into the desk drawer Installed FullWrite Professsional and boogied on. A snotty little guy in Quality Control (using his IMB DOS clunker) said sarcastically, "You know what they say about Mac users?" I repeated this to Dr. Roejack and he got hot as a jap. He said, "Look out there on all those desks. We have 30 Macs in here and one Sun Work Station. No DOS for this department. See this picture of Seymour Cray's desk? He has a Mac on it. These nitwits are struggling along with clunky old DOS and don't know what a good OS is." In three months I was hooked. MY no. 3 son was calling me a computer nerd. Computer stuff was rather high back then. An Apple SE/30 was 10,000 1980's dollars. I paid 95.00 for four 1 meg SIMS, $195.00 for a video card. Opened it up and installed the simms and the video Card in that cramped space. Paid 789.00 for a 19" B&W monitor ... That monitor lasted ten years. My grown step daughter had it when it gave up. They bought the Purchasing Manager's secretary a PeeSee when Windows 3.1 came out. Her cubicle was just outside my office. For hours, there would be three MicroSuck Whizz's around her beige box trying to figure out "How to get there from Here?" I would have my work done and be on another project before they figured it out. BTW, IN 1989, The Post Office Dinosaurs in upper management wanted us to guarantee availibility of repair parts and service for 12 years on the DEC PDP1183 computers. YES TWELVE YEARS, but thats another story. RHB The majority is nearly always wrong. On Feb 19, 2009, at 2:16 PM, John Niven wrote: > > I think it's only natural that this list comes to regard itself as > smiling fondly on a vintage technology. But heck, I'm still a ways > off giving up this G4. I had to smuggle it into work under the IT > Nazi's noses, the fact that it doesn't have a significant resale > value is a big plus as I'll probably have to leave it here. > > OK so I'm stuck at Tiger, but the rest of the company is still > running WinXP! I'd prefer my G4/Tiger to a Dingely Dell XP (what > the company supplies). > > John