Yes Eric, I was wondering if it was something specific to the PPCs too. On the other hand I use a few Adobe products as well. PhotoShop 7 and PS Elements 4 and a few other minor readers and plug-ins. However I have never encountered problems with these programs in the past. So I didn't immediately think of them. I also understand your attitude toward the use of language. Much of what I hear these days can drive me crazy. Especially what comes out of the mouths of young people. American and Canadian English was once relatively democratic. Now I find that social status and education are become identifiable to a great extent and this actually saddens me. The other day I used the word "sequential" in a sentence and some smart ass kid said "Speak English!". I imagine his mother must love him very much. :-) Bill