I'm not sure if this will be of any use to you or not. I run an older B&W G3 that came stock with an Xclaim VR card which was very unusual. I don't know the details of the difference between our cards. Is the 3D a PCI card? When I upgraded to 10.3 the drivers wouldn't work at all. I had to go through quite a song and dance to get it to work. And then on a couple of occasions I have had to start over again and relearn the steps to the dance. But I have learned a few things from it. The card was recognized after 10.3.3, I believe. I have since purchased a new OSX package and it starts at 10.3.5. I should no longer have that problem. Since it is a second monitor, did you upgrade to the latest OS (now OS X 10.3.6) before you tested the second monitor? If you didn't, there is the possibility that it could work now. Again, just a possibility. I don't know if you are inclined to experiment or not but that is just the kind of thing that would make me try. Hope this helps. Roy Harker On 9-Nov-04, at 11:10 PM, darrell wrote: > Hello People > In upgrading to Panther I lost the use of my Xclaim 3d, 8 mg video > card (running a second > monitor). In researching the problem I found it to be a universal > problem as the card is > not supported under OS Panther. Sadly my only recourse at the time was > to uninstall > and go back to Jag. I have a G4 933... 768 mg Ram. > > Any advise on a "affordable" solution to finding a second monitor card > that will function > under Panther. It's the old not wanting to spend more money on the > older technology. > My goal will be a G5 down the road. > > Thanks > > Darrell > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv >