[MPA] Audio/MIDI apps

[jim]

I (still) use Studio Vision for this.  This is the one feature that 
Studio Vision has that no one else seems to that keeps me from 
switching.  In SV I can assign any sequence to a keystroke combination 
and/or MIDI key.  The sequence that is triggered can be midi or audio 
or both.  You can 'queue' sequences to audition different sequence 
combinations, or record them into a new arrangement.  Is this what 
you're talking about?  If there are other applications that can do this 
(esp. OS X) I'd like to learn of them.

These days SV is a free download but is unsupported...
http://www.opcode.com/downloads/

thanks
-jim

On Jul 14, 2004, at 4:30 PM, luke wrote:

>
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2004, at 11:52  PM, Geoff Kaiser wrote:
>
>> What you described for audio basically just sounds like a sampler...
>
>
> no way...  i've been using samplers since the beginning - not what i 
> am talking about.
>
>> If you wanted you could use your various song sections as samples and 
>> trigger them
>> when you wanted;
>
> i could also dig out my 4-track recorder and use that - and start 
> splicing.
>
> what you told me is what every single person on the Steinberg forums 
> who doesn't entirely understand the power of the concept says....
>
> ...using a 'sampler' in this case would take forever...  there goes 
> the whole idea of rapid composition...  streamlining workflow...  
> etc....
>
> with your suggestion we just went from:
>
> 1.) select range of material (any midi, audio, controller data, 
> automation data, etc)
> 2.) assign to key (midi or keyboard)
> 3.) start recording
> 4.) play into arrangement
> done.  (this is my method/idea)
>
> now with your idea...
>
> 1.) start soloing/muting tracks
>          1.5.) also turn off effects for export - we want the effects 
> to be generated for real
> 	not from the recording - other wise we'd have to do this whole export 
> process over
> 	every-time we want to change the effects in production
> 2.) export as audio
> 3.) generate sampler instance
> 4.) load audio track as sample (maybe being large files and using more 
> memory)
> 5.) assign the sample(s) to some midi keys...
> 6.) try to set up the level of the played sample to be identical to 
> the original
> 7.) set the mixer track to be that same as the tracks of the 
> originally recorded material so that the same eq/effects etc are 
> achived...
> 	7.5.) not entirely possible since we may need to adjust the effects, 
> eq's or levels of just ONE of the originally exported tracks...
> 8.) start recording
> 9.) play the sampler at the appropriate places...
>
>
> i do NOT understand why NOBODY get's this...
>
> maybe i just do not explain it right.
>
> the "Sampler way" - SUCKS BIG TIME.
>
> there are SO many problems with it.
>
> my way keeps everything in tact.
>
>
>
>>  I know a couple guys who used to record this way,
>> triggering song sections with samplers and using an ADAT as a master, 
>> before
>> they got ProTools...
>
> exactly - BEFORE they got a better tool to try to do it.
>
> now they would laugh at anyone who would use the antique method of 
> samplers.
>
> one day when someone understands my idea and implements it - I'll 
> breathe a big sigh of relief and smile.
>
>
>
>
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