According to Bill Reburn: >Quark 5 has some good ideas there, but for me - at a time when OSX was >smacking everyone in the face I thought Quark 5 was a complete waste.. >Little did I know that Quark REALLY would drag their feet this long. >Stability issue's aside - what did it improve for you? > >Doesn't matter to me now anyway though.. Since moving to ID, when I watch >anyone using Quark I laugh. > >Whatever floats your boat eh? Exactly. I have 'legacy' documents, that function as many-paged templates for periodicals. The basic design of these docs contain a minimum of 450+ 'baseline shifts', which ID, despite what it says, cannot import and display, properly. [actually, at all]. That alone keeps me from using it. The stability issue is of paramount importance to me... BUT, I also keep a lean OS 9 [which i love, BTW], and part of its 'lean-ness' is an absence of internet-related apps. No fluff whatsoever. My thinking was: Why sacrifice drive real estate on my Internet/research/duplicated Adobe apps, etc? But, in my work, under deadline, invariably I need to hit the Web for a better photo, get an updated ad-copy from a client, etc. And that means re-booting into OSX, for me. Big pain. But necessary, and at the worst possible times, too. All of my favorite Photoshop plugs are OSX-only, which is another reason why, when I first booted InDesign [and InCopy] I thought it looked great. But the failure to import baseline shifts killed me. It's hardly a major problem, for someone who didn't need it, and would be a non-existent 'problem' if I were starting entirely new docs/publications. As well, I would never use Quark to publish to the Web, nor would I use Adobe. Why? When there's Macromedia? If Macromedia took a run at Illustrator, I'd trash all of my Adobe apps except Photoshop. I can barely tolerate the Illustrator interface, yet, when an early 'fanatic' for InDesign mentioned that "If you like lllustrator's interface, InDesign will be an easy learning curve", STILL I looked into ID. <Laughs> Quark 5.1 in OS 9.2.2 is not a 'perfect' app. Everyone else in the office, that I telecommute with, uses Quark 4 on G3s and PPCs. They're crashing all the time. But then, I use disk de-frag tools, and do other things, so the factors are too numerous and divergent to 'really' do a side-by-side comparison. Part of the deal with serious workflow software really IS 'whatever floats your boat' though. I'm used to Quark. I know what it can do. My documents took two weeks to put together, in Quark, at first, and today i can bang out 'better' versions of the same [page numbers, design-rich] docs in 8 hours. If I take on more clients [which I am not likely to do, soon] I always tell myself "Use InDesign for anything new". So, I'm not narrow-minded, but neither am I in a rush to 'fix' or abandon, a platform/app that has done so much for me... like support me 100%, for starters. :=) Happy InDesigning :=) ~flipper