On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 08:26 AM, Steve Wozniak <steve at woz.org> wrote: > CyberDog (and PowerMail) use Apple's VTWN (?) technology Steve, Interesting that you mentioned this. Maybe you were already gone from Apple by then, but Apple copied this technology from a company called SoftArc, which IMHO produces the BEST email/messaging server around called FirstClass. I know plenty of MUGs that use or used FirstClass to set-up BBS' (even Berkeley MUG) way back when. Nevertheless, this software still exists (an OS X server is coming soon), and I think the world would be a better place if we all used this mac-friendly email server (now on version 6.0). Skølcom in Denmark is running a single FirstClass server for 500,000 users and one administrator -> how many MS Exchange servers and admins would be needed to match this feat? FirstClass is multi-platform from Telnet, Unix to Windows and web. The latest version can incorporate voicemail for unified messaging and can make webpages on the fly - it's amazing software. I've been expecting Apple to buyout FirstClass for long time now since its been a key mac application in the education space (both k-12 and higher ed). Almost everyone in Maine is using FirstClass (UMaine and Maine iBook purchase). Who's using FirstClass now on this list? Gary