[Ti] iPod copy on Big Al

Loren Schooley loren at flash.net
Mon May 19 09:24:08 PDT 2003


On 5/19/03 10:15 AM, "Jesse Brown" <jesse.brown at mac.com> wrote:

> On 5/19/03 10:44, "Sam Hotchkiss" <ti at zlit.net> wrote:
> 
>>>>  If you look closer I wrote "ll" not "cp".
>>>>  I figured that if someone wanted to copy something they might want to
>>>> see
>>>>  what they are going to copy, but that's just me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> And what command does that refer to? I'm still not following you.
>> 
>> On many systems ll is equal to ls -l
> 
> 
> I'm sorry Sam, thanks for the clarification. I've worked on numerous Unix
> systems and have never seen any documentation where "ls -l"  ( list contents
> in long format) referred to as ll.
> 
> In BSD (OS X)  "ll" does not work from the command line, so I'm at a loss as
> to why it was used to illustrate this example.

"UNCLE!" I admit that it was a huge mistake here using the common "ll" alias
as an example. No it is not an RFC; yes it can usually be found aliased in
most .*rc files. Perhaps I should have considered my audience (OSX users
with 2 years experience?) and sent a 45 minute Microsoft X Powerpoint
presentation to demonstrate the labyrinthine process of the incredibly
sophisticated 3 day procedure of viewing the contents of a single directory
so that nobody will be so perplexed when I start with the Stephen Hawking
impressions. 

Here is a copy of a BSD .cshrc. Notice, BSD builds in an ll alias.
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# $FreeBSD: src/share/skel/dot.cshrc,v 1.10.2.3 2001/08/01 17:15:46 obrien
Exp $
#
# .cshrc - csh resource script, read at beginning of execution by each shell
#
# see also csh(1), environ(7).
#

alias h         history 25
alias j         jobs -l
alias la        ls -a
alias lf        ls -FA
alias ll        ls -lA

# A righteous umask
umask 22

set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr /usr/bin $HOME/bin)
#source ~loren/.aliases
setenv  EDITOR  vi
setenv  PAGER   more
setenv  BLOCKSIZE       K
set prompt="%m:%BLoren:%b%~> "
if ($?prompt) then
        # An interactive shell -- set some stuff up
        set filec
        set history = 100
        set savehist = 100
        set mail = (/var/mail/$USER)
        if ( $?tcsh ) then
                bindkey "^W" backward-delete-word
                bindkey -k up history-search-backward
                bindkey -k down history-search-forward
        endif
Endif

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