On 26 Jan 2004, at 8:50 am, Robert Nicholson wrote: > Backup doesn't run unless it can find a .mac account. > > That is why it's outrageous Apple tied this product to their .mac > product. This seems to be a rather strange position to take. 'Backup' the product, is part of the .mac package. It is not available (like all the other parts of a .Mac account) to people like me who don't want it. You could say the same thing (just as inappropriately) about any or all of the .Mac features. > > It's equivalent to only being able to iSync to your cell phone if you > have a .mac account. (which thankfully isn't the case) It is only equivalent to other products included with a .Mac subscription. I don't understand your position at all. There are other methods of backup you know. From Mac Help: There are many applications and utilities you can use to back up the information on your computer. Three methods are available in Mac OS X: ▪ Backup (a full-featured backup application for .Mac members) ▪ Disk Utility (located in Applications/Utilities) ▪ Finder (Burn Disc and Create Archive commands Puzzled am I Tom -- My ol' grandaddy taught me to always; post in plain text, quote only that portion to which you are replying, post replies at the bottom.