[Ti] [semi - OT] Tiger - Core Image Graphics

[Tristan Gulyas]

Howdy,

So they're basically stating that it requires the use of vertex and pixel 
shaders which are part of the current generation of "DirectX 9" feature 
graphics cards.  So this means anything with a Radeon 9600 onwards in it and 
a Geforce FX 5600 onwards (including the FX 6000 series).  If it can't 
happen in hardware, it happens in software so there'll be support for core 
graphics apps - it'll just happen *very slowly*.

.t
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leander Hutton" <lh59281 at appstate.edu>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Ti] [semi - OT] Tiger - Core Image Graphics


> Yes the 9200 is similar to the 90000, but Apple doesn't list the iBook  as 
> having the supported hardware.  From the Core Image part of the  Tiger 
> preview:
>  "These cards are available in today’s PowerBooks, Power Mac G5s and  both 
> the 17-inch and 20-inch iMac"
>
> The iBook and eMac aren't listed as having the supported graphics 
> hardware.  So it looks as if us last gen Ti users, iBook users, and  eMac 
> users are in the same hole.   In a manner of speaking.   However I 
> wouldn't be surprised if Apple scaled back Core Image somehow.  I mean  it 
> just seems like they're cutting out a lot of machines including all  of 
> their current model consumer minded machines.
>
> Leander
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> 1 GB RAM
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>
>
> On Jun 29, 2004, at 2:41 AM, Tristan Gulyas wrote:
>
> From the readme on the developer preview, it lists a requirement of 
> having a built-in firewire port.  This definitely rules out any  pre-Pismo 
> PowerBook G3s from running the OS (officially) - it may still  be 
> possible, as with Panther on the Wallstreet models (see 
> http://waffle.wootest.net/past/04/04/18/ 
> installing_panther_on_your_wallstreet_powerbook_g3/)
>
> As I'm about to toss some cash into a new LCD panel for my 1GHz tibook, 
> I'm also worried about Core Image and its support for my humble  machine. 
> I wouldn't be too concerned as the current generation of  iBooks use the 
> Radeon 9200 which is similar in feature set to the 9000.
>
> I would, however, be worried that the next requirement would be a G4. 
> Not a problem for us tibook users, but it will pose an issue for iBook 
> users.
>
> Needless to say, judging by the description, it'll work - just slowly - 
> and it may not look as visually stunning if your graphics hardware 
> doesn't support it.  Remember that the Pismo is still an officially 
> supported machine (my advice to any Pismo users would be to investigate 
> the sale of their machines before it's too late!!).
>
> .t
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leander Hutton" 
> <lh59281 at appstate.edu>
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:58 PM
> Subject: [Ti] [semi - OT] Tiger - Core Image Graphics
>
>
>> Anyone else here read the system requirements for Core Image?  It  seems 
>> a little steep but it makes sense since that it very demanding  of the 
>> GPU.
>>
>> I wonder what Apple means by "The performance gains and features 
>> supported by Core Image ultimately depend on the graphics card.  Graphics 
>> cards capable of pixel-level programming deliver the best  performance. 
>> But Core Image automatically scales as appropriate for  systems with 
>> older graphics cards, for compatibility with any  Tiger-compatible Mac."
>>
>> Does that mean that Core Image will still run (just without some of  the 
>> bells and whistles) on the Radeon 9000 in the last revision of the  Tis 
>> or does it mean it will be like Quartz Extreme and cut off on any 
>> graphics cards that doesn't meet it's requirements?
>>
>> I also wonder where Apple is going to draw the compatibility line this 
>> time.  In Panther they dropped all no USB native Macs.  Anyone heard 
>> anything about Tiger's minimum system requirements?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Leander
>>
>>
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