At 18:11 +0200 31/5/04, Dejan Sinadinovic wrote: >Trevor, I had the same problem. Woz helped me with this: > >>>I had this problem for a long time. I had it almost every time I >>>used dial-up, particularly from airplanes. Then I discovered the >>>freeware app "end hanging disconnect" for OS X It didn't work for >>>me at first. It didn't work for me after an upgrade. It did >>>finally do the job after another upgrade and I am now VERY >>>pleased. I used to be very disgusted when there was NO way to >>>disconnect a modem call without restarting. After all, we can >>>always hang up a phone and get a dial tone eventually, right? Dejan - excellent !! Thanks for this info. Woz' post was during the period I was back in the UK for my daughter's wedding, and I missed reading this one.... So you found, same as me, that re-start was the only answer. Good to know that I was on the right track, but this is really un-Mac-like. Is it not a strange state of 'evolution' when Mac users are (rhetorically) telling Apple that their OS is not Mac-like?? Woz - thanks for telling us about these obscure but incredibly useful utilities. regards, Trevor