[Ti] apop and Panther Mail.app

[Justin R.Miller]

On Oct 4, 2004, at 8:43 AM, Chris Olson wrote:

> I think the original issue is that mac2 wanted to "switch off" APOP 
> because the ISP blamed it on Mail.app.  I hate when tech support 
> people do that - dream something up based on a partial knowledge of 
> the issue.  That's almost worse than a WAG.  Too many ISP tech support 
> people only know how to walk the customer thru rebooting Windows, run 
> the latest anti-whatever software, and finally suggesting a OS 
> re-install if they can't get it to work.  Mention you're using a Mac 
> or Linux desktop, and it's *always* going to be some mysterious 
> "technical" issue with your chosen OS, just because it's not Windows.  
> Even if the real problem is on their end.

Sadly, that's too true.  And I think we've already reached the 
conclusion that you can't switch off APOP in Mail.app.  I even looked 
in Mail's preference file for hidden options and I've come up empty.

I wonder if a dump of the traffic of the session would help convince 
the ISP?

I've heard that qpopper (a mail server software) comes with the APOP 
enabled even if you don't have it setup:

http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-26843.html

Maybe you could try IMAP instead of POP?  It should behave pretty much 
the same for the user, and won't have an option for APOP.  There would 
be slight differences, but it might be an acceptable alternative.

-- 
Justin R. Miller
incanus at codesorcery.net