At 07:02 PM +0300 04/22/05, Dr. Trevor J. Hutley wrote: >Is it just me, or is 10.3.9 the worst update ever? :-) > Ok, so I haven't updated my TiBook, yet, but, for my Dual G4 MDD it's been the best ever. All I did was update in the background, and then after the restart I repaired permissions. And, now all the problems I've been having with eyeTV have gone away. So, for me it's been great. It seems that this one has had lots of Java problems so I see Apple has put out an update. And Trevor, have you tried to reinstall with the 'Combo' update? That seems to be the one suggestion that MacFixIt always suggests. erik g p.s. wait for my Tiger Family Pack so we'll see.