I concur. No operating system is invincible and at some point in the future, not only are you going to have egg on your face when you have a security problem, but you will have discredited Apple in front of your friends and colleagues for claiming that it was invincible. All security is relative. On Jan 12, 2005, at 10:46 AM, Alan Thompson wrote: > This is a very dangerous assumption. Macintosh computers can happen, > and probably has. I hardly consider the viruses and trojan horse > programs, or spyware akin to being hacked - being hacked is very > unlikely, but if your Mac is out there on the public wan (the > internet), and it is not protected by any means, it may be vulnerable > to a multitude of attacks. You could be running apache, and say that > some one out there scans your subnet, finds your host, and then does a > port scan. It finds that you're running a web server, AFP (apple file > sharing), perhaps Windows file sharing, etc. Lets say that any of > those applications, or services has some vulnerability, like maybe a > simple buffer overrun susceptibility. The hacker then tries some > readily available program or script to clog that service, and make it > crash, and for some reason, the crash now gives the hacker a shell on > your system, or worse, the ability to gain root all because lets say > samba, or apache, both third party applications commonly run on unix > hosts, has some poor error handling routine that gives entry to the > host. > > This is a simplistic scenario that I've described, but much more > realistic that the very dangerous attitude that Apple computers don't > or can't get hacked. They can indeed. Be careful. > > Alan > > On Jan 12, 2005, at 6:20 AM, Robert Ameeti wrote: > >> The point is to recognize that hacking of Macintosh computers does >> not happen. > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > -- Justin R. Miller incanus at codesorcery.net