On Nov 14, 2005, at 5:23 PM, Matt Kibildis wrote: > with Intel you are going to get a chip that is highly efficient > with its voltage requirements, with accordingly very low heat, and > a longer life than extremely hot AMD chips. So why not have Intel > macs? You mean like Intel's new top-of-the-line server processor? 400 watts? Perhaps you should read up on it: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/22/0714240&from=rss http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/viewstory.php?t=65120 By comparison the dual-core PowerPC 970MP only consumes 100 watts at peak, 60 watts with one core shut down, and 40 watts with one core shut down and the other one clocked back to "low power" mode. In "sleep" mode the PowerPC 970MP only consumes about 5 watts with both cores running - about 3 watts with one shut down. Perhaps you should read up on it: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-5913921.html Intel has a long history of making promises that they don't deliver on. If you want to take a look at that history I'd be glad to outline it for you off-list so as to not offend the people who believe this to be the end-all for Apple. Otherwise, of course Apple will have Intel-powered PowerBooks. They've already said that. Will they be the pie-in-the-sky miracle machines that hopeful Mac users think they will be? No. They'll be the same identical thing that you get from Dell at the same time. There's no mysteries here - Intel's processor roadmap is laid out clear as day well thru the time that Apple has said they will introduce them in Macs. Based on Intel's history of processor releases, Yonah will be out the door late and subsequently delay Apple's introduction of Intel- powered portables. The next thing that will happen is that the gamers and hardware reviewers will benchmark Yonah and it will get solidly wupped by AMD's 64-bit Turion. The next thing that will happen is that Intel will break out the infamous Intel Marketing Machine but it won't work this time because AMD will win their antitrust lawsuit against Intel. Intel doesn't have much support in the industry anymore - read the comments: http://reviews.cnet.com/5208-7591-0.html? forumID=26&threadID=113889&messageID=1292782 That's why holding out for Intel-powered Macs because it's going to make PowerPC obsolete is, IMHO, a misnomer. -- Chris ------------------------- PGP Key: http://astcomm.net/~chris/PGP_Public_Key/ -------------------------