Wouldn't posting to the Titanium forums http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=120 be more effective than posting here? They seem to be more active, cover more issues, and are easily searched. I started posting here because I wasn't aware of the Apple forum. There is a greater chance that someone in Apple might read material in those forums than here although all of those forums are user groups and not for giving input to Apple or getting advice from Apple employees. Bob Fowles 500Mhz G4 PB 768MB