Thanks Jim Mine turns out to be an 800 MHz model, but I have no idea when it was manufactured as my son bought it second-hand. As it won't boot from an OS 9 disk I guess it must be one of those that you mention (after Jan 10, 2003). In a rather Catch 22 situation, I have a retail OS 9.0.4 and the Tiger accepts its copied system folder for Classic but then says I need at least 9.1. But if I have no way of running OS 9 I can't update it. So it looks like there is no solution, but luckily the application I would like to run (Music Mouse) is not in any way vital. Don Williams On 10/07/2008, at 7:33 AM, James Herndon wrote: > Don, > > My understanding is that Apple changed the rom architecture of the > Titanium PowerBooks G4 sold after approximately January 10, 2003 so > that users could no longer boot into OS 9. The approaching change > was communicated to the user community at the time so that those who > wanted the use of OS 9 could purchase an eligible unit. I purchased > the 1 GHz version (MacTracker calls these the P88 model) and found > it a remarkably fleet and stable machine, one which I maintain > alongside my faster but less stable MacBook Pro 4,1. > > Jim Herndon > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium