as i had mentioned in my original post ...i was having upload problems as well as mail problems... apparently they were related.. i had an apple techie expert in today and he left with airport (graphite) base station )... which seems to be ill... now that i am directly on teh ethernet line ... i am not only able to upload via golive & fetch ftp's ...but i am able to have my mail.app check compulsively for mail every minute once more... hope this helps some others... thank you for all of the keychain and timing suggestions... they helped get me through to here. :-)/s ps i cringed as i realized that i had just clicked send without checking to see if i had selected plain text but my connection tonight iwas too fast for me to stop it.... happily my 1st email was bounced back to me and i had a chance to correct it.... wish all lists would do that! ======================= Sharon Cooper Creative Art Link http://www.creativeartlink.com sc at creativeartlink.com