> when I open a browser, I am still > denied access. My ISP technical director says apparently a lot of of > Mac people have a been experiencing this problem. Roy van der > Westhuizen I don't know, but this sounds like nonsense. There are millions of Macs accessing the internet 24/7 by way of thousands of ISPs. And there are even a few who use ISDN (like me). If this is happening with two different Macs and with different browsers, something is set wrong in you internet setup. Possibly the ISP changed some parameter without telling you. Do you have a choice of ISPs? If so, I'd try another one. Stephen Hart http://eugraph.com