In this case the wood pile appears to be my system. I have been getting the following message when I try to access a specific site: Cyb3r Attack owns you , admin patch your b0x now , cyb3r_attack at mail.com I have NetBarrier X running as a firewall. I have run Virex7 and VirusBarrier X and they are not finding anything. I have a laptop connect to my router (XRouter MIH-130A) running windows 98 (used to connect to my work place via Citrix) I have run a program called Trojan Hunter on the laptop and again nothing has been found. I've tried looking for Trojan Hunter/finder type software for the Mac on the net and have found nothing. I have never used the terminal but would be willing to learn if there is something out there that runs in that mode. Any help would be greatly appreciated. john.....