I tried to watch a clip at CSpan but kept getting a message that the plug-in was missing when IE says it's there. Tried with Netscape in OS 9.2, same message. What gives other than the increasing unreliability of the 'Real' product? Thanks, Stephen -- - "A man cannot step into the same river twice; for neither is it the same river nor is it the same man." Heraclitus c. 540- c. 480 BCE