Hi, running a 1 gig quicksilver. OS 10.1.2 I access the internet through a wintel network via ethernet. when I try to get to the net using both opera 6.0 or explorer that came with OS X I am told that the server could not be found. When I am in classic Opera 5 and explorer both connect to the net. I am wondering if there is some kind of permissions thing in X that keeps the machine from connecting to the wintel server? The mac is not networked to the wintel server except as an outlet for internet. Also can I download X upgrades through classic if X can't get to the net? thanks in advance tomThomas Freeman General Manager Twin Oaks Hammocks 138 Twin Oaks Rd. Louisa VA 23093 540 894 5125 540 894 4112 (FAX) www.TwinOaksHammocks.com