My nephew has the B&W 350 and I got a 300 but just upgraded to a G3 450 Zif. So I call him on the phone because in my opinion I have way to many wait states and beachballs for my liking and I would think that 450Mhz would be enough to power X 10.2.3 and I have 256 meg of ram so I should not be seeing all this sluggishness. So here are the comparison B&W's His B&W G3 350 Me B&W G3 450 His 12 gig OEM drive to moherboard His OS X 10.2.3 on 12 gig Me 6 gig OEM drive to motherboard Me 30 gig ATA 100 drive to ATA card Me SIIG ATA 133 card Me OS X 10.2.3 on 30 gig His 384 meg of ram Me 256 meg of ram His Epson printer Me Epson Printer His Epson Scanner Me Epson Scanner His DSL Me DSL His PC VGA monitor Me PC VGA monitor His CD player Me DVD/CD player Well that is everything now for the question. Why is it that his slower system takes half the time to load and get to the log in screen than my system does? Why does he have less wait states and a much perkier application and over all GUI experience than I do. I have deleted all the plist files that I thought might be culprits. I have many many more apps than my nephew could that be a reason for my system being as slow as it is? I notice that when using the newest version of Limewire or MorpheusMac that everything seems to come to a grinding stop including the dock and application menu bars. If someone could tell me how to fix this I would so appreciate it. Many thanks. Lee