On Sunday, Jun 29, 2003, at 20:55 Canada/Eastern, aussieblnd wrote: > Yes its using PPPoE on the hub router. [...] Computer connected just > fine, when I took a look at > the Preferences, Network, TCP/IP says PPP. In Mac OS X you can have multiple network connections active at the same time. For instance, you could connect to the Internet via your modem (using TCP/IP over PPP), and, at the same time connect to the PC next door via Ethernet (using TCP). For the former, your Mac would use the IP address supplied by your ISP, for the latter the IP address would be set manually or obtained by DHCP (or other methods, but let's keep things simple). Note that this wouldn't mean that you'd be using PPP and DHCP at the same time on the same network port -- they'd be on different connections. Now, you go to the Network panel System Preferences to configure your network connections. You can choose which port to configure from the Show pop-up menu. But choosing a port to configure doesn't mean (as it did in OS 9) activating or de-activating that connection. So the fact that the Network panel displays the Internal Modem (with the TCP/IP tab set to use PPP) doesn't mean PPP is active now; it just means that this is the port you are configuring at the moment. In your specific case you have a fairly common set-up: a LAN (your G4 and G3) connected to a WAN (the Internet) via a router. Most likely, both machines have IP addresses assigned by DHCP by the router. You're not using PPP at all. > If it ain't broke, no touchie! Always a good philosopy. As the French say, le mieux est l'ennemi du bien. f