The "Keys out of order" message means severe directory corruption. You need to buy Disk Warrior and use it. It should be able to fix this problem. Chris >Subject: Re: [X Newbies] >From: John Lowther <j.lo at earthlink.net> >Message-Id: <50BB926A-0381-11D8-8611-000393ADC3C0 at earthlink.net> > >Thanks Florin. > >Firstly, I've not tried resetting the NVRAM, because I don't know what >that is, and Pogue's The Missing Manual doesn't mention it (it's not in >the index...). > >Secondly, I've booted from the OSX CD and run the disk utility. While >at first, it recognized my hard drive, the 'G3' is now grey instead of >black. like it was initially. When a verification is done on the >drive, the program says that 'G3' needs to be repaired. I've asked it >to repair, and it's still grey, and when a verification is redone, it >still says that 'G3' needs to be repaired. In addition, a red message >comes up in the dialog box for both 'disk' commands-- "Keys out of >order." I'm guessing this means G3 has 'severe problems' and 'other >programs may be needed to repair them'-- does this mean, get a 'tech' >person?? > >If I'm still not giving enough information, what other details can I >give? I thought that I'd been pretty specific with what I know about >what I'm doing.... And, I do feel more intimate with my computer now >than I did a few days ago (for instance, I didn't realize that the >black screen that I'd written programs on in seventh grade was still >there!) > >Thanks again. >Tracey -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher S. Foote |Internet:foote at chem.ucla.edu 5505C Molecular Science |Phone:(310)-825-1409 Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry |FAX: (310)-206-1843 University of California, Los Angeles | CA 90095-1569 | http://www.chem.ucla.edu/dept/Organic/CSF_Brochure.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------