I mean that OSX will not behave in the same way as OS9 and earlier. I like to turn on my computer in the morning and walk away, get a cup of coffee, read the newspaper and come back to my computer and read the morning emails (and delete 94 junk emails) that downloaded while I was slipping coffee. Apple's internet apps (Safari, Mail, and others) can't successfully negotiate an internet connection on their own. I would need to "manually" connect and after downloading emails, manually disconnect. This is what I mean by not being dial-up friendly. We took a step backwards in OSX for dial-up users. I tried several email clients - only Microsoft's Entourage worked best at negotiating a successful connection (some of the time). Though Entourage for OSX is PAINFULLY slow, so I can't wait to dump it and move to Apple's Mail program. Paul On 9/23/03 5:50 AM, "Mac OS X Newbies" <X-Newbies at lists.themacintoshguy.com> wrote: > Also, what do you mean by OSX not being dial-up friendly. While I > haven't used dialup in a few years, I just hooked my friends iMac up to > Earthlink in about 3 mins with no problems. > > David Crandon