rbgeiger at optonline.net said: >I thought of that myself, but wouldn't the rest of the system preferences >like clock time be lost (which it isn't) and default to 1956 or whatever >OS X defaults to for a weak battery. No, actually a range of things can happen, from total inability to startup, to just a few settings being off. I can't tell you why there is this varibility. The PRAM battery typically gives out after about 3 to 5 years. But it can give up a lot earlier, or later. The PRAM battery is a small cylindrical lithium battery that looks like a short AA battery. In fact it is colloquially called a "1/2 AA." It is located on the motherboard and it snaps in and out just like a AA battery in a toy. Yours is probably a light purple and black. Tadiran # TL5101 Lithium Battery 3.6 Volts. 0.97" long x 0.56" diameter. You can test the PRAM battery with: Pram Battery Checker http://www.polar-orbit.com/ But if your PRAM battery is over 3 years old, I would just replace it. Other World Computing is a good source for PRAM batteries. they stock them for $6 and while their prices aren't the lowest, their shipping usually is: http://eshop.macsales.com/ $6 http://eshop.macsales.com/AddToBasket.cfm?ID=2524&Item=OWCMAC36V You can also get one (for a bit more money) at a Radio Shack. $13.59 Catalog #: 23-026 http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=23%2 D026 You can download a shop manual that will show you how to slide out your iMac's motherboard to do the replacement, from: http://home.earthlink.net/~strahm_s/manuals.html (Unfortunately it is a very slow download. I recommend using an FTP program, like Interarchy, to download the manual.) Randy B. Singer Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) How To Deal With Common OS X 10.3 Panther Problems http://www.macattorney.com/panther.html