Richard Bienvenu said: >I just installed Tiger; it's grrrrrrrrreat. But, the upgrade, if that's >the word, OS 10.4.1 is, as I recall, 19mb. It'd probably take hours to >download it on my slow connection, even if it were to stay open. Can >anyone suggest a solution? ... >Does Apple sell CDs of this upgrade? I can't find a thing on the Apple >site that suggests that they do. As far as I know, Apple does not offer intermediate (i.e. free) updates on CD-ROM. If you are using a dial-up connection, and you occasionally need to download a huge file, the best way to do it is with an FTP (File Transfer Protocol) program (not a Web browser) and to let it run overnight if necessary. An FTP program will be a little more efficient about the download, and if the download is interrupted you won't have to start over again from the beginning of the download, you can resume the download from where it was cut off. You may want to use one of these free FTP applications: RBrowser Lite (free) http://www.rbrowser.com/RBrowserLite/RBrowserLite.html or CyberDuck (free and open source) http://cyberduck.ch/ You can download the combined updater to 10.2.8 directly from: <http://wsidecar.apple.com/cgi-bin/nph-reg3rdpty1.pl/product=06142&platform =osx&method=sa/MacOSXUpdate10.4.1.dmg> or http://tinyurl.com/axkfr Just throw one of these addresses into the Login Panel in your FTP program (minus the < and > at the ends), hit return, and it will do the rest. Randy B. Singer Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) Routine OS X Maintenance and Generic Troubleshooting http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html